When Do You Use A Comma Before Or After But?

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Is there a comma before but?

The correct answers are yes there is, and no there isn’t.

Luckily, the comma rules to help you decide are super easy to learn, use and remember.

You need to decide whether to insert a comma or not with but.

But it is really simple to make the correct decision. It will depend on the structure of your complete sentences.

 

Two simple but comma rules

There are two basic and simple rules to follow for the use of a comma before but.

1. You place a comma before but when the two halves of your sentence can stand alone.

2. You omit the comma before but when the two sentence halves can’t stand alone.

comma rule after but

 

But what about a comma after but?

If you start a sentence with but, you usually don’t need to use a comma.

But yes, you can use a comma after but. However, you won’t use it very much.

Before you read on to the examples of where to put the comma with but, you might want to refresh your memory about starting a sentence with but.

 

When do you use a comma before but?

All you need to do to make sure you are correct is to check if your sentence is connecting two independent clauses.

In this case, both clauses will have a subject and a verb.

If each part of your sentence is independent they can stand alone as whole sentences. Then but, which is your coordinating conjunction, needs a comma to separate your two clauses.

Here are some examples for you.

I wanted to go out for breakfast but my local cafe was closed. Incorrect

I wanted to go out for breakfast, but my local cafe was closed. Correct

This is because each part of the sentence can stand alone as individual complete sentences. Each one has a subject and a verb.

I wanted to go out for breakfast. Complete My local cafe was closed. Complete

More examples:

He left home early, but he forgot to take an umbrella. Correct

My sister is leaving for Canada tomorrow, but she will be back in three weeks. Correct

Susan doesn’t like sardines, but her sister loves all kinds of fish. Correct

We really wanted to go to Spain for our holiday, but the hotels are too expensive in summer. Correct

I meant to buy some bread, but I forgot to stop off at the bakery. Correct

 

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When do you leave out the comma before but?

When the second part of a sentence is a dependent clause, there is no comma before but.

It happens when you cannot make a logical sentence from the second clause. This is because it is dependent on the first clause for its meaning.

Usually, this is because there is no subject with a verb in the second clause.

 

Look at these examples.

The restaurant was fantastic, but very expensive. Incorrect

The restaurant was fantastic but very expensive. Correct

It is because the second word or phrase is not a complete sentence.

The restaurant was fantastic. Complete Very expensive. Incomplete

 

More examples:

Studying grammar is hard sometimes but interesting all the same. Correct

I went to the concert but left early with a headache. Correct

The rest of the sentence was easy to write but with no comma. Correct

Going to the gym is tough some mornings but good fun all the same. Correct 

He played as well as he could but lost the match. Correct

You can see from the sentences above that there is no subject with a connecting verb in the second clause.

Be careful though, because there can be a verb. But if it doesn’t have a subject, it is not an independent clause. You can see this is the last example sentence above with the verb lost.

 

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Can you use a comma after but?

Yes, you can, but you won’t have to use it very often.

But only needs a comma after it when there is an adverbial clause or an extra clause inserted following it. Think of it as an interruption to a sentence.

comma after but

For example:

But, yes indeed, there is plenty of space in the car for you.

I was going to buy tickets for the new show, but, in fact, my husband had already bought them for me.

But, if you really want to know the truth, I can’t stand my boss.

It’s not easy, but, well, you know how it is.

The good news about your commas

Does the comma go before or after but? Now you know the answer.

You have mastered the comma rule with but. I told you it was super easy.

Now I have some even better news for you.

You can use the exact same three-part rule for a sentence with commas for and, or, yet and so as well.

 

1. Use a comma before the conjunction when the two sentence halves can stand alone.

2. Don’t use a comma before the conjunction when the second clause can’t stand alone.

3. Use a comma after the conjunction when it is followed by an interruption.

 

comma with but and so

Examples of the comma before and, so, yet and or

He went to London for two weeks, and he stayed at an expensive hotel.

Susan’s loves her cat, and she lets it sleep in her bed.

Mary loves her dog, yet she doesn’t let it onto in her bed.

There was no chance of changing our flight, so we had to stay for two more days.

Tim missed his train, so he was two hours late for the meeting.

You can try for a free upgrade, or you can pay extra to be sure you get it.

Don’t pack too much, or you will be charged for excess baggage. 

 

Examples of the comma after and, so, yet and or

He went to London for two weeks, and, just like him, he stayed at an expensive hotel.

Susan’s loves her cat, and, naturally, she lets it sleep in her bed. 

Mary loves her dog, yet, like many dog owners, she doesn’t let it onto in her bed.

There was no chance of changing our flight, so, unfortunately, we had to stay for two more days.

 

Summary

It is very easy to learn the comma punctuation rules for coordinating conjunctions.

All you need to do is take a few minutes to make sure you understand the basic rules and then lock them away in your memory.

If there is a subject with a verb in the second clause, use a comma. If there is no subject with a connecting verb, omit the comma.

You can also use a reliable grammar checker to help you check for your correct comma usage.

Here is a screenshot of some of my article text in Prowritingaid. You can see that the mistake is clearly marked with an explanation of the comma problem with but.

PWA commas

 

You can always do a similar check if you are a Grammarly user.

grammarly commas

 

And yes, I just did a full check and I got all green lights for my comma usage.

Yes, there are a few complicated comma rules. The ones for cumulative and coordinate adjectives can be a bit tricky.

But for but, it is easy to get it right every time.

I am always reminded of this quote when I think about using commas.

“I spent all morning putting in a comma and all afternoon taking it out.” – Oscar Wilde

It is true that comma usage is complex and often open to interpretation.

But, luckily, it is easy with and, but, yet and so. So you can leave all the other comma rules for another day.

 

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Derek Haines

Derek Haines is an Australian author, living in Switzerland.

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